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| [02:06:42] | <rickmanelius_> | . |
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| [02:07:40] | <lindsayo> | . |
| [02:07:51] | <lindsayo> | rickmanelius: try that again without the _ |
| [02:08:39] | <bradj> | Anyone have a suggestion on a jQuery (or similar) approach that will dynamically load an image on hover? I'm thinking, hover over product name, it loads up thumbnail... but only requests the image after hover |
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| [02:10:29] | <lindsayo> | bradj you could use a .show/.hide on mouseover/out |
| [02:10:34] | <lindsayo> | and do a .get |
| [02:10:55] | <bradj> | lindsayo: I think that's what I'll do... just wondering if there's a library out there... but it's easy enough to build I guess |
| [02:11:05] | <lindsayo> | there might be. |
| [02:11:10] | <lindsayo> | like a product zoom feature. |
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| [03:01:08] | * larsdesigns stuff with pizza! |
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| [03:13:29] | <lindsayo> | wha? |
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| [03:40:34] | <larsdesigns> | lindsayo: I ate way too much pizza this evening. |
| [03:40:43] | <lindsayo> | ah |
| [03:40:49] | <lindsayo> | so that was just poor conjugation. |
| [03:41:01] | <larsdesigns> | So, much pizza I lost typing skills. |
| [03:41:04] | <lindsayo> | heh |
| [03:41:27] | * larsdesigns loves pizza! |
| [03:41:42] | <larsdesigns> | whiskey! |
| [03:41:50] | <larsdesigns> | bot? |
| [03:41:50] | <Druplicon> | I'M UP! I'M UP! |
| [03:42:21] | <larsdesigns> | lindsayo: pm? |
| [03:42:26] | <lindsayo> | sure |
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| [05:04:59] | * larsdesigns waves at beeradb |
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| [05:51:36] | <bradj> | Thoughts on speeding up feeds? Or, just get more patience? |
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| [06:11:47] | <larsdesigns> | What do you mean by speed up? |
| [06:12:26] | <larsdesigns> | bradj: Do you find it too slow when importing? |
| [06:13:19] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: I may just be whining, but I'll let you be the judge: I've got approx 13k commerce products that my client updates nightly with a csv file from their accounting software |
| [06:13:24] | <bradj> | (This is a replacement build-out.) |
| [06:14:00] | <bradj> | So I am using commerce_feeds to update the existing items, which I know is slower to begin with... it's just taking about 2 hours to update about 3 fields on each product |
| [06:14:27] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: And I doubt migrate would be much faster since at their core they both iterate over your source records, load and save the target entity |
| [06:15:33] | <larsdesigns> | Well, my thoughts are that you could write a module that adds some of the process to memcache. |
| [06:16:19] | <larsdesigns> | and/or take a look at tuning the database and php. |
| [06:16:51] | <larsdesigns> | I am a big fan of memcache. |
| [06:17:41] | <larsdesigns> | I remember when I implemented just the default contributed drupal module how much it helped feeds. |
| [06:17:43] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: That's tempting though I haven't the first clue how to send off a process to memcache |
| [06:17:57] | <larsdesigns> | It's not that tricky |
| [06:18:06] | <larsdesigns> | I will send a good doc |
| [06:18:07] | <larsdesigns> | just a moment |
| [06:18:09] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: So just enabling memcache out of the box might accomplish some of this |
| [06:18:23] | <larsdesigns> | Yeah for sure. |
| [06:18:47] | <larsdesigns> | It focuses on memcaching drupal core which helps a lot. |
| [06:19:10] | <larsdesigns> | Like 70% better performance on some of my sites. |
| [06:20:29] | <larsdesigns> | bradj: Read through this little story and you will get excited |
| [06:20:31] | <larsdesigns> | http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/TutorialCachingStory |
| [06:21:07] | <larsdesigns> | All the code that runs for each iteration of importing a feed can be memcached. |
| [06:21:53] | <larsdesigns> | There is no reason for it to query the database over and over during a feed import. |
| [06:22:09] | <larsdesigns> | Which is where the expense it. |
| [06:23:22] | <larsdesigns> | Another option that a DBA would suggest would to write a stored procedure but that is not really the Drupal way. |
| [06:26:53] | <larsdesigns> | bradj: I wrote memcache/memcached install instructions for OSX Lion if it is helpful. http://www.larsdesigns.net/content/how-setup-and-configure-memcache-mamp... |
| [06:27:32] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: Thanks... I did read about stored procedures but you're right, a little out of my wheelhouse |
| [06:27:38] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: What are you up so late working on? |
| [06:27:45] | <larsdesigns> | I am currently not using mamp, I created my own stack using homebrew recently and will have a tutorial on the way. |
| [06:27:59] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: I'm on linux anyway |
| [06:28:22] | <larsdesigns> | Cool, Ubuntu is super easy to get memcache rolling. |
| [06:28:55] | <larsdesigns> | apt-get and pecl will get you there in a hurry. |
| [06:29:10] | <larsdesigns> | I am up late working on custom blog module. |
| [06:30:54] | <larsdesigns> | For performance and other reasons, I am placing multiple views on a single page using a module and template. Also modifying the views in preprocess to add up some fields. |
| [06:31:02] | <larsdesigns> | Usual boring stuff. |
| [06:33:10] | <larsdesigns> | bradj: Are you using ubuntu? |
| [06:33:17] | <larsdesigns> | Just curious... |
| [06:34:37] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: Yup... though I have been too busy to make the 10.04-12 leap |
| [06:35:13] | <larsdesigns> | Nice, use Ubuntu for all my servers. |
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| [06:36:05] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: yeah me too |
| [06:36:06] | <larsdesigns> | I only have four at the moment. |
| [06:36:34] | <larsdesigns> | That reminds me... |
| [06:37:55] | <larsdesigns> | Druplicon: tell techgirlgeek: This is the memcached documentation I was talking about at the previous meet-up: http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/TutorialCachingStory |
| [06:37:55] | <Druplicon> | larsdesigns: I'll pass that on when techgirlgeek is around. |
| [06:39:54] | <bradj> | Hmmmm... I now if I could only figure out why titles of products have gone blank in the course of this import... ugh |
| [06:42:00] | <larsdesigns> | If you try memcache, I would be interested in your benchmarks. |
| [06:42:11] | <larsdesigns> | Let me know how it goes, if you go down that route. |
| [06:42:28] | <bradj> | larsdesigns: yeah I do have drush doing a timer on the import now so at least I have that |
| [06:42:45] | <larsdesigns> | Nice |
| [08:32:52] | <bradj> | Druplicon: log pointer? |
| [08:32:52] | <Druplicon> | http://druplicon.info/bot/log/drupal-colorado/2012-08-08#T6800288 |
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| [14:49:39] | <kappaluppa> | wooo hoo... life in Cali... felt our first earthquake last night since we've been here |
| [14:54:05] | <teampoop> | a 4.4… that's a fun one.. |
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| [14:55:18] | <kappaluppa> | was a good jolt. my girls thought the upstairs neighbors were jumping up and down... only we don't have upstairs neighbors any more, lol |
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| [14:57:31] | <killtheliterate> | larsdesigns: i put a little tut together for an amp stack --> http://thedrearlight.com/blog/mountain-lion-and-the-amp-stack.html |
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| [15:02:10] | <sanguisdex> | so how are *nix user liking the new skype? |
| [15:02:10] | <vegantriathlete> | I guess it's hard for people who are so used to things the way they are - even if they're bad - to change. 'Cause they kind of give up. And when they do, everybody kind of loses. |
| [15:02:21] | <vegantriathlete> | sanguisdex: So far so good for me. |
| [15:02:37] | <vegantriathlete> | sanguisdex: haven't checked out all the things that anoyed me before to see if they've been fixed. |
| [15:02:46] | <vegantriathlete> | ^annoyed |
| [15:03:30] | <rickmanelius> | good morning! |
| [15:03:30] | <Druplicon> | Indeed it is! |
| [15:03:30] | <Druplicon> | rickmanelius: 1 day 20 hours ago <RickNashleanas> tell rickmanelius check out http://byfat.xxx/if-hemingway-wrote-javascript. Thanks, jswainst. |
| [15:03:30] | <Druplicon> | rickmanelius: 23 hours 34 min ago <lindsayo> tell rickmanelius I'm on my way from Cohere to the Alley Cat to get chai. You gonna come in to Cohere today? |
| [15:03:38] | <rickmanelius> | woah |
| [15:03:46] | <rickmanelius> | take 2 days off and get 2 messages |
| [15:03:53] | <rickmanelius> | if I extrapolate... |
| [15:03:56] | * vegantriathlete is about to talk with somebody from australia on skype |
| [15:04:33] | <lindsayo> | You missed the chai run, rickmanelius |
| [15:04:34] | <lindsayo> | :P |
| [15:04:44] | <rickmanelius> | lindsayo: apparently :) |
| [15:04:57] | <rickmanelius> | But I heard there is going to be a lot of bands in the area this weekend |
| [15:05:10] | <rickmanelius> | so it's going to be fun exploring town for that |
| [15:05:18] | <RickNashleanas> | rickmanelius: I knew you were offline; I knew you would have commented on my literary link if you were. |
| [15:05:27] | <rickmanelius> | lol |
| [15:05:40] | <rickmanelius> | RickNashleanas: I saw that post on google+ but didn't get a chance to read it yet |
| [15:05:53] | <rickmanelius> | I'm sure I'll get a good, geeky laugh out of it :) |
| [15:06:44] | <rickmanelius> | anyway… good to be back (batteries recharged) |
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| [15:34:48] | <sreynen> | is anyone here not in colorado right now? |
| [15:35:02] | <teampoop> | new mexico |
| [15:35:10] | <acrollet> | where in nm teampoop? |
| [15:35:14] | <sreynen> | teampoop: does this page show colorado cities for you? http://leaflet.cloudmade.com/examples/layers-control.html |
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| [15:35:29] | <teampoop> | Albuquerque |
| [15:35:37] | <teampoop> | yes.. Denver |
| [15:35:38] | <acrollet> | ah ok, i grew up in santa fe |
| [15:35:41] | <teampoop> | or denver area |
| [15:35:59] | <vordude> | It gives me denver area, but I'm not in denver (fwiw) |
| [15:35:59] | <teampoop> | ^^ sreyen |
| [15:36:11] | <sreynen> | ok, i thought maybe they were showing locations near me specifically, but it's just a coincidence |
| [15:39:06] | <teampoop> | man.. I thought the whole point of drush rs was to make a quick install of drupal.. |
| [15:39:28] | <kappaluppa> | California |
| [15:47:43] | <teampoop> | acrollet: I never spent much time up in SF.. except to go to the ski area.. |
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| [16:35:55] | <teampoop> | Druplicon walks into a bar....... |
| [16:36:10] | <teampoop> | that's as far into the joke as I have gotten.. |
| [16:37:52] | <sreynen> | Druplicon: help? |
| [16:37:52] | <Druplicon> | Detailed information is available with "BOTNAME: help <feature>" where <feature> is one of: Aggregator, Botagotchi, Factoids, Karma, Logging, Project URLs, Reminders, Seen, Tell, Timezones. |
| [16:37:52] | <Druplicon> | If you need help, just ask your question. No need to ask whether you can ask. The more specifically you state the issue, the better, so others who otherwise might be very busy can see quickly whether they can help you. By the way, #drupal-support is dedicated for support questions. |
| [16:38:03] | <developerweeks> | drupal - icon |
| [16:38:06] | <developerweeks> | the blue dude |
| [16:38:25] | <sreynen> | is Druplicon broken? |
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| [16:38:48] | <acrollet> | druplicon was extremely slow the other day |
| [16:38:56] | <teampoop> | it bounced out the room.. |
| [16:39:45] | <sreynen> | Druplicon: karma cheese? |
| [16:39:45] | <Druplicon> | cheese has karma of 10. |
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| [16:40:49] | <sreynen> | oh, just really, really slow |
| [16:42:41] | <sreynen> | Druplicon: stop daydreaming about mars and get back to work |
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| [16:52:04] | <killtheliterate> | yea, Drupl |
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| [16:59:34] | <developerweeks> | I am new to the state, is there any normally scheduled gathering for code monkeys? |
| [17:01:27] | <vordude> | developerweeks, yes |
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| [17:01:33] | <vordude> | developerweeks, where are you? |
| [17:01:39] | <ultimateboy> | http://groups.drupal.org/denver-boulder-colorado-dbug |
| [17:01:47] | <ultimateboy> | that has a list of all of our meetups |
| [17:02:36] | <ultimateboy> | hmm.. why on earth was that training session in Iowa posted to our group?! |
| [17:02:51] | <ultimateboy> | anybody care if I remove it? |
| [17:03:01] | <ultimateboy> | is that taking my group admin perms too far? |
| [17:03:31] | <greggmarshall> | ultimateboy : not in my opinion |
| [17:03:45] | <ultimateboy> | greggles: care to chime in? /me doesnt want to over step |
| [17:03:46] | <developerweeks> | ultimateboy: being new, it is not my place to say, but I think removing Iowa from Colorado is appropriate |
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| [17:05:32] | <greggles> | ultimateboy: I thinkw e post our camps to iowa |
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| [17:05:38] | <greggles> | a training event feels over the line to me |
| [17:05:53] | <ultimateboy> | ok. Thanks |
| [17:06:14] | <greggles> | for someone in northeast colorado that's probably as close as denver |
| [17:06:30] | <greggles> | but…someone in northeast colorado should move already |
| [17:06:34] | <ultimateboy> | lol |
| [17:06:43] | * greggles is not a fan of the plains side of CO |
| [17:07:01] | <developerweeks> | there is that little-remembered drive all the way through Nebraska to get to Iowa |
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| [17:07:30] | <RickNashleanas> | Frankly, I was confused to even see that Iowa post there. |
| [17:07:37] | <developerweeks> | so, are there any meetings in Chaffee County yet? so far, I have only met one other developer out here in the middle of the mountains |
| [17:07:40] | <ultimateboy> | well.. its gone now :P |
| [17:08:49] | <vordude> | Speaking as a former northeast Coloradan, Iowa is not closer than Denver. |
| [17:08:59] | <vordude> | greggles, You just need to see the good parts. |
| [17:09:21] | <greggles> | oh, nebraska |
| [17:09:25] | <greggles> | how could I forget it |
| [17:09:49] | <greggles> | vordude: I went to Jackson state park - is that a good part? |
| [17:10:12] | <greggles> | other than that I only know the freeway and offramps and service stations which I'll grant are never good |
| [17:10:51] | <vordude> | I've only seen it from the interstate |
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| [17:39:54] | <cyberswat> | anybody else having issues accessing https://github.com/ through a web browser? I can use command line no problem but website is jacked |
| [17:40:38] | <cyberswat> | ooh ... gravatar is causing it to not load |
| [17:40:48] | <cyberswat> | weak github .. really weak |
| [17:41:09] | * ultimateboy is having no issues |
| [17:41:23] | * acrollet has issues |
| [17:41:28] | <acrollet> | oh, wait, we're talking about github? |
| [17:41:31] | <acrollet> | ;) |
| [17:41:38] | <ultimateboy> | though with their recent notification changes, things were funky for me earlier this week |
| [17:41:56] | <cyberswat> | strange |
| [17:41:56] | <ultimateboy> | ya.. github is great.. except when they are not |
| [17:41:57] | <ultimateboy> | :P |
| [17:42:10] | <cyberswat> | the timing is horrific |
| [17:42:13] | <developerweeks> | seems functional to me |
| [17:42:16] | <cyberswat> | they should work on that for me ;) |
| [17:42:20] | <cyberswat> | thx |
| [17:42:25] | * cyberswat shoots his laptop |
| [17:42:48] | <ultimateboy> | their notification changes made me stop getting pull request notifications for a couple of days.. that was fun :P |
| [17:43:28] | <cyberswat> | 3 minutes into a page request and it finally gives me http://www.evernote.com/shard/s182/sh/5fabbbd4-023c-4cdc-bd73-b2a2e98db5... |
| [17:43:44] | <ultimateboy> | ha ha |
| [17:43:49] | <ultimateboy> | lovely |
| [17:43:58] | <developerweeks> | dont abuse the monitor, it is just the messenger, shoot the nic |
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| [18:26:37] | <Snicers-Work3> | Is there a way to set the Title field of a content type to be a drop down node reference instead of a text field? |
| [18:28:36] | <vordude> | You could rig something with http://drupal.org/project/auto_nodetitle/ |
| [18:29:25] | <c4rl> | If you want to do it in code, you could set #access = FALSE in the hook_form_alter for the node edit form |
| [18:29:40] | <c4rl> | then in hook_node_update and hook_node_insert, grab the title from the noderef |
| [18:30:00] | <c4rl> | #access on the title input, that is. |
| [18:30:53] | <Snicers-Work3> | Ok great. Thanks. |
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| [18:36:09] | <Snicers-Work3> | Is there a way under "Find Content" to have additional columns to list fields related to the content type? |
| [18:36:11] | <jyee> | auto nodetitle is great, but occasionally it gets confused with references |
| [18:36:38] | <jyee> | Snicers-Work3: custom View to replace that page. |
| [18:37:11] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: Create a custom table view accessible with admin perms, and use http://drupal.org/project/views_bulk_operations/ to invoke operations with exposed filters |
| [18:37:21] | <vordude> | not confused hack it together to make the node title a token of the value of a reference field that's on the page. |
| [18:37:23] | <Snicers-Work3> | Oh, cool. |
| [18:37:25] | <vordude> | (form) |
| [18:37:25] | <Snicers-Work3> | Thanks. |
| [18:38:59] | <Snicers-Work3> | with auto nodetitle is it possible to set the title to that of a node that you are referencing with a select list, I see the nodes token but am unsure of which node it would pull the token from. |
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| [18:40:28] | <c4rl> | Anyone used http://drupal.org/project/rel before? |
| [18:40:38] | <jyee> | the token should be something like node:field_your_reference_field-node:title |
| [18:40:42] | <jyee> | Snicers-Work3: ^^ |
| [18:41:18] | <Snicers-Work3> | the -node would be something like 153 right? |
| [18:41:37] | <Snicers-Work3> | node:field_your_reference_field-153:title |
| [18:42:11] | <jyee> | well, it's the name of your field, then drill down to the node title. |
| [18:42:55] | <jyee> | you shouldn't need to change the token |
| [18:43:26] | <jyee> | but I think if you just use node:field_your_reference:value it'll just use the nid of the referenced node |
| [18:43:31] | <Snicers-Work3> | I am a bit confused, I have a node for each car, I want to base the title of a new node of a different content type on the title of a car that I am referencing in the new content types node. |
| [18:44:44] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: You may need to enable entity_token via the entity module |
| [18:44:47] | <jyee> | so your new content type should have a node reference field to the car. and the new content type should have auto nodetitle set to create titles based on that reference field. |
| [18:45:10] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: If you want to use Auto Node Title, I believe it needs entity_token in order to drill into the Field API values |
| [18:45:24] | <c4rl> | node:file-some-field-name:value |
| [18:45:24] | <c4rl> | etc |
| [18:46:02] | <Snicers-Work3> | Ok, I will try this out. |
| [18:46:04] | <Snicers-Work3> | Thanks guys. |
| [18:46:07] | <c4rl> | tias? |
| [18:46:07] | <Druplicon> | Try It And See. If it works, great! If it doesn't, come back here and ask for support. |
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| [18:47:14] | <Snicers-Work3> | c4rl, exactly. |
| [18:48:19] | <c4rl> | :) |
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| [18:52:38] | <Snicers-Work3> | Can you only use one token? |
| [18:52:48] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: You can concatenate them as you'd like |
| [18:52:57] | <c4rl> | [token1]-[token2] |
| [18:52:58] | <c4rl> | etc |
| [18:53:08] | <Snicers-Work3> | Hmm, it isn't working, the second just comes out in square brackets... |
| [18:53:46] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: And it's listed in the possible tokens? |
| [18:54:02] | <Snicers-Work3> | yeah, under Nodes. |
| [18:54:14] | <Snicers-Work3> | And I am sure it is associated with the node I am referencing. |
| [18:54:47] | <c4rl> | Doesn't devel module have some sort of token preview? |
| [18:54:50] | * c4rl can't recall |
| [18:56:15] | <c4rl> | Check your spelling :) |
| [19:05:13] | <c4rl> | hook_user_categories-- |
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| [20:00:01] | <Snicers-Work3> | Yeah, that isn't working, how does the auto node title know what node I am referencing? |
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| [20:00:49] | <kappa|away> | man, another earthquake this monring and 5 aftershocks... we're rockin' and rollin' here in Cali! ugh! |
| [20:00:50] | <Snicers-Work3> | I need it to have a title based on a different node. |
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| [20:10:51] | <Snicers-Work3> | So c4rl I can only base the node title off fields within the content type, I can't base it on fields within different content types. |
| [20:11:25] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: You mean across node references? |
| [20:11:39] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: Did you enable entiy.module and entity_token.module? |
| [20:11:45] | <Snicers-Work3> | let me make sure. |
| [20:11:46] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: You may have to do it in code. |
| [20:11:54] | <c4rl> | *entity.module |
| [20:12:04] | <Snicers-Work3> | *facepalm* |
| [20:12:08] | <Snicers-Work3> | No.. |
| [20:12:13] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: Try http://drupal.org/project/entity |
| [20:12:21] | <Snicers-Work3> | I have it downloaded, just not enabled. |
| [20:12:47] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: I see. There was some RAM issues with these, so watch out since they nest deep. If you have a recent version of token it should be fine. |
| [20:13:55] | <Snicers-Work3> | It doubled up my avalable tokens, duplicating all. |
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| [20:14:11] | <developerweeks> | Snicers-Work3: I was going to say with node_save or hook_node_insert you could, having the relation of the ref field at that point, but c4rl sounds like he knows what he is talking about |
| [20:14:19] | <c4rl> | ha |
| [20:14:24] | <c4rl> | That's your first mistake |
| [20:14:39] | <Snicers-Work3> | I enabled it, still same result. |
| [20:14:40] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: Well, generally via entity_token you may have token access across fields into other entities |
| [20:14:52] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: So I'd anticipate you can get the title of a node across a node reference, but maybe not |
| [20:15:11] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: In that case, you may need to go to the hook_form_alter and hook_node_insert/hook_node_update route |
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| [20:15:35] | <c4rl> | It was worth a shot :) |
| [20:15:49] | <Snicers-Work3> | I have never used hooks, how would I go about doing that? |
| [20:15:56] | <c4rl> | Welp |
| [20:16:28] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: You'll have to write a custom module, that's a bit much to explain over IRC |
| [20:16:36] | <c4rl> | Snicers-Work3: I'd recommend getting the Pro Drupal Development book |
| [20:16:47] | <Snicers-Work3> | k |
| [20:16:48] | <c4rl> | if module writing is new territory |
| [20:17:23] | <c4rl> | In short, you'll alter the form so that the title doesn't display, and the hook into the node update/insert process so that the title is set as the title of the associated reference. |
| [20:17:43] | <c4rl> | Clear as mud |
| [20:18:07] | <c4rl> | I'm surprised entity token with auto node title wasn't working |
| [20:18:21] | <c4rl> | I might dig into this later on my own just to see what's going on |
| [20:20:24] | <kid_icarus> | Has anyone had to test recurring billing in drupal in a general sense? |
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| [20:20:46] | <kid_icarus> | I ask because I'm trying to figure out how to test it |
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| [20:21:10] | <kid_icarus> | specifically winding the clock up 30 days in the future |
| [20:21:11] | <c4rl> | kid_icarus: Only in uc in D6 and it never really worked that smoothly |
| [20:21:23] | <developerweeks> | Snicers-Work3: if you think you can learn it with just what is available out there, try http://drupal.org/node/1043828 |
| [20:21:24] | <Druplicon> | http://drupal.org/node/1043828 => Drupal 7 - Introduction to module building => 0 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
| [20:21:54] | <avalot> | Hello Drupal Stoners! uh… I mean Coloradans! |
| [20:22:10] | * acrollet suddenly has the munchies |
| [20:22:14] | <kid_icarus> | lol |
| [20:22:23] | <c4rl> | botsnack! |
| [20:22:23] | <Druplicon> | thanks c4rl; can you pass the mayo? |
| [20:22:36] | <avalot> | Hey, does anybody know of a "simple" way to find out if an anonymous user is a returning visitor? |
| [20:22:51] | <kid_icarus> | avalot: Google analytics :) |
| [20:23:08] | <avalot> | Checking user->access wouldn't work, would it, since all anons have userid=0... |
| [20:23:09] | <c4rl> | avalot: Can you explain the context a bit more? |
| [20:23:11] | <developerweeks> | avalot: there is a GA option to log ip addresses |
| [20:23:22] | <c4rl> | avalot: Set a cookie? |
| [20:23:26] | <avalot> | I'm trying to display something only to people who have NEVER been to our site before. |
| [20:23:34] | <avalot> | And then hide it for return visitors. |
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| [20:23:50] | <killtheliterate> | avalot: that'll require checking a cookie or something, no way around it |
| [20:23:50] | <c4rl> | avalot: Cookies seem like the way to go |
| [20:23:56] | <avalot> | Ah, yes, set a cookie… any pointers on setting cookies for anons? |
| [20:24:05] | <kid_icarus> | willy wonka ever-lasting cookie |
| [20:24:06] | <avalot> | nm, I'll RTFM first. :) |
| [20:24:18] | <c4rl> | avalot: Cookies aren't specific to Drupal, you'll just use the PHP api |
| [20:24:21] | <killtheliterate> | there should be some sort of cookie in the session table already |
| [20:24:27] | <avalot> | …or should I look at the _SESSION? |
| [20:24:45] | <avalot> | Yeah I'm looking for a user who doesn't have a drupal cookie set yet. |
| [20:24:48] | <killtheliterate> | I think drupal's session table stores that junk for, like, 1 month |
| [20:24:54] | <avalot> | Is there a quick check for that? |
| [20:24:57] | <c4rl> | avalot: Check settings.php |
| [20:25:02] | <avalot> | Aha! Session table! |
| [20:25:05] | <killtheliterate> | unserialize the sesh |
| [20:25:08] | <killtheliterate> | and check it |
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| [20:25:34] | <kid_icarus> | but then what if someone deletes their cookies |
| [20:25:35] | <avalot> | Not sure what unserializing a session means, but I'll try it ;) |
| [20:25:44] | <c4rl> | kid_icarus: No way around that |
| [20:25:53] | <killtheliterate> | unserialize($the_thing) |
| [20:25:58] | <kid_icarus> | c4rl: Zactly :-P |
| [20:26:00] | <acrollet> | All the things! |
| [20:26:09] | <c4rl> | avalot: I believe D7 has lazy session initialization for anons |
| [20:26:12] | <jyee> | acrollet++ |
| [20:26:18] | <avalot> | If they delete their cookie, I shall taunt them (show the intro video) a second time! |
| [20:26:21] | <jyee> | meme karma! |
| [20:26:27] | <kid_icarus> | lol |
| [20:26:27] | <acrollet> | woooooo :) |
| [20:26:45] | <c4rl> | avalot: So you may have to just set a dummy session variable for everyone, since I believe sessions aren't invoked unless you are auth. I think this got in to D7 from pressflow |
| [20:26:47] | <c4rl> | but I could be wrong. |
| [20:27:01] | <c4rl> | If people delete their cookies, they shouldn |
| [20:27:12] | <c4rl> | they shouldn't be irritated if sites give them duplicate experiences post-deletion. |
| [20:27:16] | <c4rl> | That's the way the cookie crumbles. |
| [20:27:18] | <c4rl> | PUN INTENDED |
| [20:27:23] | <avalot> | Awesome awesome awesome info! Very cool. |
| [20:27:26] | <killtheliterate> | haha |
| [20:27:31] | <kid_icarus> | zzzzzzzing! |
| [20:28:17] | <c4rl> | avalot: So you may have to just set a dummy session variable in a hook_boot() just to get it registered at all (assuming you're using caching) |
| [20:28:33] | <c4rl> | Check for sure, I can |
| [20:28:38] | <c4rl> | can't recall off the top of my head. |
| [20:28:56] | <avalot> | Okay, so I just write "Shrubbery" to visitors' cookies, but if they don't have one, I say "Ni". Easy enough. |
| [20:29:49] | <avalot> | Argh, yes, caching. I'm using Boost, so I'll need to do this at the pre-drupal level, won't I? |
| [20:30:05] | <c4rl> | uhhh |
| [20:30:18] | <c4rl> | Well |
| [20:30:34] | <c4rl> | I believe boost bypasses PHP entirely via .htaccess |
| [20:30:47] | <c4rl> | Is hook_boot() even invoked? If not, you may have to use JS to do all of this. |
| [20:31:03] | <avalot> | HAHA! JS! |
| [20:31:20] | <c4rl> | ...says the guy using boost ;) |
| [20:31:21] | <avalot> | I can hack it in JS, sounds good. |
| [20:31:37] | <c4rl> | Cool |
| [20:31:57] | <killtheliterate> | boooooooooooooooooooo - st |
| [20:32:49] | <avalot> | I'm a noob on shared hosting, so without boost, my site's response time would be measured in epochs. |
| [20:33:06] | <avalot> | :( |
| [20:33:08] | <c4rl> | Yes |
| [20:33:24] | <c4rl> | avalot: That's cool, we've all been there. |
| [20:33:27] | <avalot> | Someday I'll learn something else than views, and all will be well. Until then, boost. |
| [20:33:31] | <avalot> | :) |
| [20:33:53] | <c4rl> | avalot: Speaking of which, make sure you're caching your views too |
| [20:34:18] | <killtheliterate> | ...tell me more. |
| [20:34:23] | <killtheliterate> | :P |
| [20:34:25] | <kid_icarus> | I like to cache the cache of my cache's cache |
| [20:34:39] | <acrollet> | yo dawg, i heard you like caching, so i put some cache in your cache's cache |
| [20:34:47] | <kid_icarus> | bahahaha! |
| [20:34:48] | * acrollet shamelessly trolls for more memeKarma |
| [20:34:52] | <killtheliterate> | hahaha |
| [20:34:58] | <avalot> | No worries. I actually am memcaching the views' cache behind a proxy. |
| [20:35:05] | * acrollet will probably get decremented as a result |
| [20:35:23] | <avalot> | just kidding. |
| [20:35:49] | <c4rl> | avalot: On *shared* hosting |
| [20:36:08] | <c4rl> | https://twitter.com/msonnabaum/status/187594650293506049 |
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| [20:36:59] | <avalot> | Yay! Free performance audit! Yay! |
| [20:37:51] | <lindsayo> | hahah, that's priceless. |
| [20:38:22] | <avalot> | Allright… as always, when I get on this channel, I now have a few weeks' worth of RTFM to do… but now I know which FM to R! |
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| [20:38:34] | <c4rl> | haha |
| [20:38:39] | <avalot> | Thanks Drupal stoners… er… coloradoans! |
| [20:38:49] | <c4rl> | Stay classy, avalot |
| [20:39:05] | <avalot> | Many thanks to you, curl! |
| [20:39:15] | <killtheliterate> | i don't know those acronymn letters |
| [20:39:21] | <avalot> | curl, I meant, and &$%&# to Apple Autocorrect. |
| [20:39:30] | <killtheliterate> | hahahaha! |
| [20:39:32] | <avalot> | c4rl! c4rl! |
| [20:39:33] | <acrollet> | lol |
| [20:39:38] | <acrollet> | thank you Steve |
| [20:39:39] | <c4rl> | Blimey |
| [20:39:57] | <avalot> | Blimey, Bliyou… Bli it together… naturally. |
| [20:40:27] | * c4rl wonders who is actually stoned. |
| [20:40:28] | <lindsayo> | curl |
| [20:40:29] | <lindsayo> | hahaha |
| [20:43:10] | <kid_icarus> | https://twitter.com/r_kois/status/233302147041738752 |
| [20:45:01] | <rickmanelius> | kid_icarus: nice |
| [20:45:10] | <c4rl> | https://twitter.com/c4rl/status/233302772605394945 |
| [20:45:35] | * c4rl goes back to work |
| [20:45:38] | <kid_icarus> | c4rl: lol |
| [20:45:53] | <avalot> | +follow |
| [20:46:35] | <avalot> | More on the cache meme: http://drupal.org/node/397414 |
| [20:46:35] | <Druplicon> | http://drupal.org/node/397414 => What's Meme Cache? => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [20:47:34] | <avalot> | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/353o64/ |
| [20:47:54] | <kid_icarus> | lol |
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| [20:57:06] | <teampoop> | lol! |
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| [21:20:15] | <lindsayo> | ha |
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| [21:52:42] | <developerweeks> | Druplicon: snackbot |
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| [21:52:57] | <jyee> | botsnack! |
| [21:52:57] | <Druplicon> | thanks, but no drink? I suppose I'll get by. |
| [21:53:07] | <developerweeks> | oh |
| [21:53:15] | <developerweeks> | yeah that too |
| [21:53:20] | <jyee> | :) |
| [21:54:45] | <c4rl> | whiskey! |
| [21:54:56] | <c4rl> | Druplicon: whiskey! |
| [21:55:02] | * c4rl kicks Druplicon |
| [21:55:12] | <c4rl> | Maybe someone removed that one. |
| [21:55:31] | <c4rl> | Since a bot consuming alcohol is kind of PG-13 |
| [21:55:57] | <developerweeks> | oh, I thought that was a command for delivery |
| [21:56:32] | <developerweeks> | does the bot charge shipping and handling? |
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| [23:12:36] | <developerweeks> | should that be read as: You! Quit leaving. ? |
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